Microsoft Buys Bethesda: Elder Scrolls, Fallout, and Doom Join Xbox Game Pass | PCMag

by birtanpublished on October 2, 2020

hello and welcome to the pop-off pc mag show where we talk about video games the industry trends our opinions games uh today we have some very special news and to help break it down to a very special guest uh please welcome mr danny pena from uh the award-winning podcast uh gamertag radio yeah thanks for the invite thanks for the it was super super last minute but hey man it's about video games man we gotta we gotta talk about this man

Yeah i mean i think anybody was expecting what happened today um so yeah let's get out with it microsoft is buying zenimax media the owners of bethesda so that means they're gonna own elder scrolls fallout doom wolfenstein some these huge gaming properties they bought them for 7.5 billion dollars they announced today today the day before xbox series s and x pre-orders go live so starting off the week with a bang yeah i mean if you think about it man this was all

Planned this was like think of it as like uh you know a game of chess you got to think before you move man so this was like the right moment to get people excited so the next day people could just go and and pre-order the system either the s and x and also another thing that they announced too is that xbox game pass now is 15 million subscribers that is insane a couple months ago it was 10 million so it's growing a lot faster now

Especially last week they just launched um game pass officially s cloud for game pass for mobile and they sent me they sent me this a couple days actually last week um it's like a whole set just a celebration of like of game pass so it's pretty cool man the future is looking good man for xbox and i think they definitely need that man because one of the things that everybody was talking about was their first party so now now they have 23 studios man within the

Company man so that's that's huge huge for them yeah you're right yeah there's a huge long-term implications for their strategy and this generation going forward but what was your just immediate reaction on seeing the news this morning well first of all i was drinking my coffee i was like oh it's a monday you know i gotta get ready for tomorrow tomorrow everybody's gonna be pre-ordering so i'm gonna cover that for the podcast right so then my co-host paris lily calls me

He's like have you seen the news i go no dude podesta that's it it's part of xbox i'm like get out of here but i went online i see the reaction from everybody that was one of those like crazy crazy news that i think this is the biggest news i think we've seen in in this generation so far in the past decade right like i think this is bigger than the right the minecraft yeah in terms of just in terms of cash yeah yeah in terms of just like number of huge properties like minecraft

Itself is huge but like just elder scrolls alone like skyrim's filming everything on the planet because they know they can just get everyone to buy it again yeah but i mean think of this think of this somebody posted this on twitter i can't remember who it was but when disney acquired um a star wars i think it was like three three point something billion dollars or maybe close to four like four or something like that yeah something like that marvel both were both like four yeah yeah

And this is 7.5 this is even bigger this is insane man so all those games doom fallout even starfield which is coming out in the future it's gonna be big for xbox man you know all of them they want for game pass day one and it puts in perspective like you know sony obviously beat microsoft in terms of just console sales this past generation but just put some perspective just how huge microsoft itself as a company is

That they can just like spend money like this and just eat you know eat a generation that didn't go so great for them that recovery like that yeah i mean this is a sign that sacha is really the ceo of microsoft he is really taking this series because remember there was rumors years ago that microsoft was planning to to sell xbox the xbox game division yeah you're right yeah you know and look at this now now they're really taking this series man long term this is going to be big like right now for launch it kind of hurt them

Not having um halo infinite you know day one but give it like a year or two once we start seeing all these exclusives that's coming out for xbox and we don't even know what else bethesda been working on behind the scenes before this announcement so that's something we have to think about too now my question that i have is is a lot of these games are also going to be coming out multi-platform are these going to be exclusive only to xbox or is it going to

Be a way like kind of like minecraft where it's available everywhere but as we'll be on game pass day one like i wonder if it's gonna be like that you know so right well two of the games we know that they are working on are def loop and uh tokyo ghost wire uh and there's gonna be the pc but those are going to have a timed ps5 launch exclusivity and those agreements are still going to be honored i believe but yeah the quote to bloomberg was that they're going to look on it on a case-by-case basis

Um which i think is interesting um yeah you wouldn't see necessarily sony or nintendo saying that i think there would be like it's just lots of our platforms period mm-hmm i mean if you think about it this morning i was watching the news because now cnbc and all these major media outlets is picking up the news about xbox i think this is going to help him to get more uh promotion to people to to pre-order the console tomorrow um and another thing too is more people

Are going to be subscribing to game pass because look think of it at this man people they could easily just get the playstation 5 have their mobile device or tablet android device right and they could just play these games without buying an x and an s so and they're still going to be playing all these games so no matter what they're they're they're going gonna be doing pretty good with the company overall man you know yeah microsoft is a software company ultimately like they don't they

Just want you to get in their ecosystem you know they'll let you do you want to buy office on your mac they'll let you do it so yeah they're pivot to like their real thing is game pass and the more huge games i have on there like even again if elder scrolls six comes out on ps5 for like that's one sixty dollar purchase or if you subscribe to game pass you get that day one along with all these other games they're gonna be on there

Like that's you know and for your xbox series s which is 200 cheaper than the ps5 yep that's yeah yeah but think of this too man if people start pruning the consoles tomorrow they have let's say they already pre-ordered the playstation 5. they could now also get the s or the x for either do the the xbox all access 25 monthly or 35 monthly and they'll get everything and probably all those games by the time the two year okay i think it's 24 months you have to do it by the contract

You're gonna have all those games still from podesta now including the game pass and people are gonna be like man you know what let me just subscribe it wouldn't be i wouldn't be surprised if xbox makes an announcement like you know every person that buy a system maybe we'll get like a a two-month or three-month subscription of game pass for free oh yeah yeah so that sounds like a no-brainer my my co-host he mentioned this on our show uh paris he was like think of it as like when we bought the original nes

Back in the days we had the dunk hunt and also mario brothers as part of the bundle this is the bundle for xbox you know having over 100 something games available right there for you if you buy the the system from day one so you need to buy a game just game passing you're good man you know so this is huge huge huge news man yeah and and another thing that i i i'm wondering too next week um next week xbox is having their uh showcase

Um during tokyo game show so i wonder they're going to have another announcement because right now there's no rules man anything is possible you know so now yeah my next point yeah like this is obviously not the first it's the biggest by far but like xbox has been on kind of a streak of acquiring studios lately from you know double fine and obsidian um do you think that this is like the last big studio they buy or because it kind of seems like a culmination right like how much

How much yeah what do you where do you go from here in terms of acquisitions well back in february we had uh phil spencer on our show for our 1000 episode and one of the questions that we asked them was like they're planning to invest money on acquiring a studio in japan and that's one of the things that phil spencer that really wants to make that happen man so we just have to wait to see i mean that will be big i mean i don't know it will be

Too soon to announce it back to back like this but maybe in the future maybe now something like that i think that will be that would be good for for the company too man because right we need we need uh japanese games man because if you think about it the xbox invested a lot of money back during the 360 days where it was uh rpgs like uh the lost odyssey blue dragon those were like really good games man you know and we haven't had that at all during this generation

Right because it didn't it didn't really you know improve uh their you know their success in japan they didn't really move the needle that much um yeah yeah they got they got the crater final fantasy to make not final fantasy and but no but the one thing that um that happened a couple months ago back during the summer was they announced that game pass launched in japan officially and phil spencer they even did like a whole announcement

On youtube you know talking about it you know so i think remember in japan they're really big into like into mobile gaming mobile is like their thing that's why it's been a huge success for nintendo so investing money on on this instead of pushing and promoting the console this is gonna help the company too and um they've been doing that now xbox been doing that a lot now in south korea they're getting like all these pro gamers and

And well-known celebrities start showing them like playing a game pass on their mobile device and everything so i think that's gonna be big and those countries too both have great internet so the idea of just streaming games to them is a lot more viable there than you know parts of america potentially yeah actually yesterday i went to uh central park and i was like let me test this because you know i've never i'm always using uh wi-fi and i started using a 5g

Playing minecraft dungeons without a controller just touch screen and it plays well really really good no lag nothing everything was smooth man so imagine their connection over there that's gonna be huge totally yeah uh so i'll say my immediate reaction to this news was that i recognize that is significant it's very big news but in terms of like my opinion of it i was very like neutral on it um as a consumer because i'm like well i feel like it doesn't change that much for me

Personally because those games were gonna you know those games are gonna exist no matter what in a way it could just potentially limit my choices um and i'm just as my own personal politics i'm not super just jazzed about these huge companies just consolidating uh all just you know the idea of like a handful of companies being in control of all media that exists um going back to disney that's not something that really excites

Me well for me i see this as like good for us for the consumers forget about the like the companies and console wars and everything but as a gamer it is good because competition when there's competition it benefits us man so i like seeing these men like i see i love seeing this type of of announcements from like uh you know from all three companies you know so if let's say it would have been playstation would announce this i think

There's a huge move you know so now let's see what sony's gonna do or what nintendo's going to do you know i think we're going to see a lot of a lot of big moves like this in the future for for all three companies man i think this is not going to be the last one yeah near i agree i agree that the pressure it puts on sony is good because it pushes them to up their game even with pricing like you think people are saying like if the series s wasn't 300 and this x wasn't 500 dollars they could have

Launched a ps5 at like 100 more for each of those models so i agree that in terms of how it puts pressure on sony i'm just saying in terms of just like kind of just really just a world overall i want to see i think it's better for more companies to just kind of exist period um yeah i mean if you actually think about it now studios have now more support because now they have the money right i think that's going to open more jobs for for for students to hire more developers

To walk and work on games and also studios can also take a risk on creating games they don't have to depend on like oh it's going to be a huge game on retail no they just release that game on game pass and even if it's a failure at least it will keep people signing up to the service so perfect example uh obsidian was working on grounded that was that was like only like with 10 15 people that worked on that game as a side project

And usually when companies do that studios they'll push it and then promote it and talk about it to like different publishers to see who would like to get it and look they were working on this project and xbox like hey you know what this is this will be perfect for our server let's release it you know so we're going to see a lot of those type of games like triple a games double a games indie games we're going to see a lot of that meant for for xbox game pass yeah that's a really good point too yeah as part of a first

Party you're just you're under different it's not like your one game is going to make or break your entire studio um exactly yeah so yeah we talked about how potentially how other companies might respond but yeah do you have yeah what do you see sony doing potentially in response to this a lot we saw a lot of angry people on twitter being like oh they need to like buy konami or something no no no i think uh i mean there was rumors about this that

Sony was gonna buy bethesda i saw this months ago and it was actually i think bethesda was just trying to sell the company for a while you know so i don't know man i think i think what sony needs to do is start announcing games that's coming out first party to get the the the community excited about you know about playstation 5. and we'll see if they plan to uh acquire another major company out there you know so

It's possible man i think the rumor was uh and i read this a while ago was like silent hill that was going to be like an exclusive for playstation yeah that's like where people are bringing konami from yeah yeah yeah so i mean you ever know man you never know that could happen man but i mean another company that's pretty big too that i think that would be great for any of the three to buy is sega that will be huge too man you know yeah someone needs to uh you know some of those franchises tekken needs some love

Thank you thank you hey i don't care who who acquires them i think that will be a huge huge move whoever acquires because like sonic is is an iconic ip man so that would be eagle they finally got yakuza to hit in a big way yeah yeah so yeah but but it looks like i'm not saying that's going to happen but it looks like xbox is really has a close relationship with with sega you know back up back in in february when phil was on our show he was just talking about the relationship

With sega meeting up with them and finding star online and look finding star online yeah genesis is coming out next year for for the console too so you never know yeah they gotta get persona out of the playstation first though oh that yeah that's a big one yeah yeah that's definitely a big one so yeah wild times uh these consoles are coming out you know these different services these companies by it's it's a crazy time not in in the world too but also also in

Video games so yeah danny thanks so much for joining us to break it down uh where can the folks find you on the internet you can find us find me godfrey on twitter i'm very active there and also a gamertag reader look for us on any podcast platform we're there uh also we just got added to amazon music they just launched a podcast section so yeah just look us up there man cool i was gonna also complement your very uh on brand green light background oh yeah i did it on purpose it was like hey

Uh and yeah keep bringing pc mag we'll have coverage of all these consoles we have a review of game pass coming up pretty soon that i read um so yeah thanks for watching you

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