Gotham Knights, Suicide Squad, and Marvel’s Avengers: We Preview the Hottest New Superhero Games

by birtanpublished on November 6, 2020

hello and welcome to the pop-off pc mags show where you talk about video games industry trends games we're playing all that stuff about our favorite interactive art form i'm jordan miner i'm joined by joined by alexis ned from mashable hello and we're going to talk about superheroes because no matter what medium tv movies video games you just we just can't escape them and we're a bit of a moment where uh lots of big superhero games are being announced or about to come out so

You know we're gonna talk about that uh first off it was the dc fandom a couple of days ago where we saw trailers for all sorts of movies of the batman suicide squad all that stuff but also we got two very big uh dc game reveals and alexis i know you're a big fan of the batman arkham games yes so were you excited by these reveals from the fandom this weekend i was i was kind of surprised to see the direction that gotham knights took um just the fact that it's so based in multiplayer since none of the other

Arkham games have been multiplayer because batman looks alone yeah but now batman is dead yeah but now batman is is dead and now you know it's up to the knights i'm excited to play as batwoman i'm super excited to finally be able to like play as nightwing i'm a huge nightwing fan um yeah that's the one from wb montreal who did um arkham origins and you know we were kind of waiting to see what they had for a while um yeah so so it's four characters but

It's only two-player co-op it seems to be um and yeah kind of taking some of that arkham sort of that arkham universe sort of aesthetic um and combat but more like when people are like the attacks they're like there's like numbers flying off of heads so it's like an action rpg i think what they're trying to position i was very surprised to see that in the game play um well they said it was a pre-alpha build so you know who knows what the final version might totally look

Like but it did seem a lot more rpge it it was a little not well i i will say strange because the aesthetic was so clearly pulled from the other arkham games that to have like these other elements all of a sudden in there um it makes me think of what else is going to be different about these as far as like is it going to be fully free flow combat are we going to have you know a few takedowns stuff that i think is like very crucially arkham series yeah i guess we're going to have to wait

To find out but it looks like they've taken some time to take what's good and then tweak and add some things what i'm more curious about is just how the game is going to be like structured um because we'll get into this more when we talk about avengers but yeah there's um i'm kind of concerned that it's going to be like another kind of game as a service which is just a huge trend right now and i can totally see how like oh yeah that like is gonna be like a raid like the

Whole mr freeze storyline is gonna be like those are story missions and like a raid or whatever but there's also gonna be like just kind of uh more generic stuff um throughout the city which that that combined with the rpg elements could be something that i'm not super into um but again but like arkham's combat i think could land it also like blend this up pretty well to that kind of format uh potentially i don't know how do you feel like that kind of that kind of structure potentially i'm

Not super nuts about um the kind of about this particular well even though it's not part of the franchise but like that particular aesthetic going towards the games as service model because for me when i play the arkham games like i want to fully live in my moment of being a defender of gotham and just the idea get a like of people together to you know take down the mad hatter i'm like that's not really gonna super feel like

A batman game to me but uh you know they also might not go in that direction since so many other games have they might not want to be too avengers e especially since avengers is coming out next month and this is supposed to come out next year 2021 but yeah i know it's a it's a trend but someone's got a bucket and i hope gotham knights is one of the ones that it yeah yeah the idea of grinding in a game like that well it could you know stop people from trying to get in which is what they really want for these kinds of games

Please make me dig up a bunch of loot boxes where it's like oh i got this super purple nightwing armor this time it's like that's how batman's will um you're just finding these boxes he left right view of the city but did you have to solve puzzles it's like the riddler really got to him in that last game and i was just hiding stuff all over the city uh you mentioned this too so this yeah this technically isn't in the same universe as that arkham stuff even

Though it kind of could be i got spoilers for rock'em night i i've spent a not small amount of time since dc fandom trying to figure out if either of the dc games they told us about take place in the arkham verse and either of them could and either of them have a good reason to be um because in both of them it looks like it's kind of relatively bat-free uh bruce wayne slash batman did die in an explosion at the end of arkham knight which they referenced at the beginning of the gotham knights trailer

Um i i hope that at least one of them is i'm not gonna lie even if they don't have the same voice actors or anything i i like the arkham story and also it would be really cool if the jason todd in gotham knights was the red hood from um arkham knight or the ark of night from arkham knight because it's like then you got a whole redemption arc built in um i guess maybe the kind of last big story bit that we saw teased um and this is how they were teasing this

Game for like months like months ago because we like we kind of knew this game was coming for a long time and like you know he was making it um but the last bit that was kind of these at the end was this court of owls stuff um those are that's a relatively recent kind of major batman villains yeah i mean it's not like 1960s robes gallery but it's yeah i'd say relatively recent compared to how long batman's been around but they're an amazing element to include because i

Mean who doesn't love a super secret cobble of bird themed psychopaths that are trying to take over gotham you know there's a bunch of evil bruce wayne's and evil thomas and martha waynes cool so yeah so yeah that's that's going to be the kind of the big uh big villains in this one but speaking of villains and speaking of their other game they also announced suicide squad colon killed the justice league yes uh for 2022 from rocksteady next gen only uh gotham mike is going to be on ps4 and ps5

Xbox one series x but this is 2022 next gen only uh we just got a cg trailer where they're in i think it's like metropolis like i call it like metropolis in the daytime yeah um deadshot black deadshot which i thought i appreciated um uh king shark harley quinn and captain boomerang um but yeah this one we know even less about just so where were you at on that i've been hype ever since they announced it

I i do think that evil superman needs a little bit of a break especially in video games yes especially in video games but hey the game's not coming out until 2022 we might forget all about evil superman by the time that happens i love the way that they were interacting in the trailer i think that they pulled kind of the very few good humor elements from the suicide squad movie and put them in there right hoping to have the suicide squad too to kind of take some

Inspiration from yeah and uh i especially i like harley's character design a lot it seemed way more birds of prey than it did suicide squad because her suicide squad outfit was a crime and it was just like so male gazy and super cheesy so to see her with like you know she's got her hair in bun she's got you know tactical pants she's got a vest and she's you know ready to kick ass dude i think rock said he kind of got some criticism for her designs in some of those early arkham games too yes

Even in their most recent in arkham knight she's a bustier and a tutu and i'm like come come on guys we're a bit past that so i was i was nervous to see what they would do with her considering the last charlie that they've had which also also considering the ways they're in the news lately these days yes i was really happy to see her character design um king shark also i just it's really hard to make an endomorphic shark look like a fun normal person that anyone

Could be talking to and he looked great i loved the way he looked and as you said black dead shot super down with that it's it's exciting a lot of the choices they revealed in the trailer even without showing gameplay makes me think that they've learned a lot and are willing to uh kind of step forward into a literal new generation as far as you know i mean it's gonna be ps5 but also as far as you know not going in the wrong direction with design things

Now now you know the little the little gameplay things we do know um it makes it sound like it's gonna be more of a shooter potentially just i mean just the nature of those characters and like um you know like the kind of co-op elements um that could be interesting and different from them considering that you know the arkham games were very melee focused and kind of did a lot you know innovated a lot there so i'm doing a kind of like a wackier like co-op shooter thing i think it'd be

Interesting i'm not a huge fan of shooters i'm much more of a melee player rpg player action adventure stealth kind of person so i'm hoping and they probably will give you more options in the game if you want to play as you know harley quinn with some whole thing you know a bat giant sledgehammer like different weapons like that or you know i mean almost all those characters use guns so i'm hoping that if it does go in that direction there's

Um there's enough variety and options for us to be able to choose how we want to play our hero so we'll play our villains technically so you think kind of adding those kind of different kind of weirder elements could like make a shooter like more palatable to you potentially that's something i like about like say like overwatch like that it's a shooter but the characters have a lot of weird abilities but don't just come down to how well you can shoot a gun exactly if my success in the game is

Determined on my ability to aim uh at all i'm already chosen so just starting from my enduro and able to complete the game i hope there are other options i was looking at brock steady's previous games and before the batman games they made a first person shooter where you are a riot cop so you can you could draw on that in some ways maybe not some other elements but they do have some experience making a shooter urban chaos riot response the name of that game

I've nev i've never heard of that game but i feel like it's been on purpose i've never bothered to work oh dear that's another kind of game though uh the suicide squad game if it's again it's like a co-op multiplayer you know a co-op kind of uh you know shooter like that that's something that could also lend itself well to being a game of service so i would hope that you know they're not both that um although they could very well yeah they both could be hopefully it's one or the other but i mean that does

Seem to be a trend especially specifically with hero games yeah so that's okay yeah like there's a reason batman is my favorite superhero is because he's you know yeah he's a dad with like a billion kids that keep getting crap kicked out of them but also like he's alone both i like playing video games by myself so if all the superhero and super villain games are now going to be like must have other people to complete and potentially in shooters i will be very confused that does not really seem to be

The uh the soul of a lot of the heroes that i love well we'll always have miles morales so there's two very good transitions there um i'm going to do the one to the avengers um that game is going to be a game of service that's coming out in just a couple of days um marvel's avengers a big triple avengers game they announced forever ago it's finally coming out um have you played it i played the beta okay i also played the beta i played about two weekends

Of the yeah two weekends of the beta i didn't have a chance to use the multiplayer part of it i have some friends that did and they said the game really clicked for them in there um i wasn't super impressed up front with the beta it seemed like too small a snippet to really like wet my appetite for the full game but there was enough cool stuff in there where i'm looking forward to the full game because i think that the single player campaign has a lot of potential and when i am able to do the multiplayer

I want to be able to be good enough to look you know not be the iron man that's dragging my team down right uh yeah i also played a lot of the beta uh just in single player um and yeah there are parts that i liked for sure um there's some of the some of the depth of the combat options for the characters do make them feel different like it's interesting to see the way they try to like find solutions for like everyone needs a projectile attack so for the hulk he's like ripping

Up parts of the ground and throwing him and then kamala khan miss marvel is just like throwing her big and big in hand um that is cool and some of the aesthetic like i like the um was i think they called the war zones where it's kind of like a more open area and you're kind of like busting um you know you're you're busting me these bad guy layers that stuff i thought was kind of neat but the again i'm just not into i'm not into destiny i'm not i mean no one's in the anthem um

The idea of like having to like grind for loot um in a superhero game it's kind of counter to the power fantasy to me in a lot of ways like for whole totally agree like for hulk so underpowered yeah and his gear is like you know for iron man that makes us like oh the gear you got a new repulsor away or whatever but like the hulk his gear is like oh you like upgraded his skeleton or something so like even in lore it kind of doesn't make a lot of sense um are we experimenting on the hulk in

Real time yeah um so that really didn't do a lot for me um yeah there was there were a couple of um square peg round hole moments for me where it's like i get that this is how that kind of game works but the fantasy of being a superhero probably should not be about that um but we'll see how they make it work in the full game and we'll see also just the ratio of story missions to um you know despair

Had a lot just kind of generic uh you know repeat these kind of missions so we just see the kind of balance of that stuff too um but it kind of it got me to go back and play a little bit marvel ultimate alliance three which came out last year which i i think i probably like a bit better and i was trying i was trying to figure out why and barbara's aesthetic um you know parts of this avengers like you know the characters look good in this well i mean technically they look good

You can talk about like they're kind of bootleg quality but like it's like listen there's there would be so much more money if they could use the avengers we know and love and massive copyright issues so right but like they're like high fidelity like they're like detailed um but lots of other like kind of enemies and environments i think are just kind of boring looking um so i thought i like ultimately 3's aesthetic a bit better but also like it's combat while dumber

I think lends itself better to that kind of thing like and like this the combat options deeper but like there's a point where i'm like i'm learning all these moves and stuff but in the end i'm still just kind of mindlessly fighting guys anyway so the amount of like thought i'm putting into it doesn't it doesn't seem worth it in the end where it's still just like a dynasty aware sling kind of there's a point where i would just bust up into a room and just hulk jump until everyone was dead

Uh yes that's kind of like an uncanny thing um for me but game's not out you know we can't we can't judge the full beta yet so that'll be out pretty soon and you know you just mentioned if you you're looking for that big single-player superhero game on your next generation console we got miles morales coming out uh this holiday with ps5 we already kind of did a show about that when we were talking about uh just the bfi

General but you were on that show any any thoughts on that uh kind of the last thing here oh i mean i'm i'm super looking forward to miles like i said i i like my heroes kind of lone wolfy i like being able to fully embody the fantasy i'm a huge fan of the character i mean he's i think the only not even hero but only character who is like me where it's black dad puerto rican mom oh there you go he's a superhero so as far as representation i never

Thought i would get that yeah that's that's the bullseye specific i never expected it but i got it and the character is amazing i loved uh spider-man and ps4 so so so much and just being able to put miles in that environment and have it be like christmas in new york which we're probably not gonna get this year you know i have to i have to live through that somehow i cannot wait to see how the ps5 uses their new technology to make his powers feel more interesting and dynamic

I watch something about how they're doing like the venom strikes we'll have like haptic feedback for the controller and i'm like yes give it give me all of this i need this very much cool so yeah so no matter what superheroes you're into between now and the next two years there's there's something coming out for you so unfortunately yes look forward to that i'm wearing a shirt with dark side on it so maybe we'll get maybe one day who knows a new gods game um maybe with that aver duvernay movie

Um but yeah look look forward to all that alexis thanks so much for joining us here thanks so much for having me jordan yep and then thanks for watching everybody

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