1 Cool Thing: Xbox Series X

by birtanpublished on November 22, 2020

hello this is one cool thing from pc mag i'm jordan miner i'm joined with my colleague matt ozzy hello and today we're talking about the xbox series x event that just wrapped up uh we saw a lot of new games for microsoft's new console that's coming out later this year and you know we have a lot of thoughts about it so should we just we could probably just talk about halo for this entire thing for the end or get it out now or wait i mean you're a big halo man i'm a big

Halo guy i found an old master chief shirt that i have for this video um yeah we they started with it so we we might as well um halo infinite infinite infinite possibilities there was both of we both saw a lot and not much at all i feel like like we saw gameplay we hadn't seen any of before we got a feel for then like there's a grappling hook that's kind of cool like we saw some gameplay got a peek at the map but they

Didn't actually tell us anything about the game itself so there's been a lot of rumors about this one kind of for a while that's gonna be like an open world sort of thing a kind of a bit of a game as a service um and i think the stuff we saw he definitely lends credence to that for sure so you're talking about map markers yeah it didn't it didn't disprove that but also didn't really tell us what you would what you would do they have some quote about how they want this to be the next

Halo for so many years as really like a platform like a live service which we've seen right it's not they're not calling it halo 6. right you kind of want to know them anymore they so that that implies sort of that there's not just like a i don't know eight to ten hour campaign and then that's it uh with some arena shooting multiplayer as always i'm sure that's still there but you have to assume there's some sort of i don't know if it's destiny-like i don't know if it's

A battle royale something that they can update live and kind of give people a reason to keep coming back to for that many literal years um we don't really have a hint of what that is other than the fact that unlike a lot of past halos we saw a map with markers on it that means you can kind of roam around an area and go places yeah and there's theoretically like story threads need to continue or wrap up like like i don't know there needs to be like a substantial single-player component right that's

Like a key part of the series yeah we got like we got like some uh laura in the beginning with like the crash and the pilot he's talking to and then we got some sort of end monologue that really tied in some lore but um that clearly is in the game i couldn't tell you what what couldn't tell you what we're going to be doing but there is there is obviously some sort of story thread from past games didn't we see master chiefs like eyes

In the last one they've been like slowly undressing that man good pal john yeah so that's launching that's a launching title spencer in the suit we feel spencer put reggie in the suit that's why he quit nintendo yeah he certainly has the body for it um so that's a launch title for this holiday on the series x and also the kind of the big thing that they're doing is that none of microsoft's first party games are gonna all their first party games are gonna also be on the xbox one and

Xbox one x for at least these first couple of years so yeah the pc yeah also um so that's that's kind of that's like their their biggest game i feel like we have like a solid sort of release date for like at least a time frame yeah um the rest of those kind of things the rest of the rest was a little far off we didn't see game play much like several pascal infinite reveals we didn't see any gameplay for we saw a lot of title cards and and cg animation today but not now

That's not a game player release or release dates and that's kind of the theme for the whole event um because yeah we were expecting um you know just the situation this year it's kind of thrown off a lot of marketing plans so you know gamerville has been kind of pushed back and been kind of uh up in the air but like people were figuring like with new consoles this year like sony microsoft need to really come out and like really show what they've been working on

And regardless of how i feel about some of those games i feel like sony did show a lot of games at their ps5 reveal a couple of weeks ago yeah microsoft showed an okay amount i also feel like they maybe didn't do as much of a sell for the console itself as sony did like they showed us all these games um we got to see a lot of stuff that's going to be coming out either as you said on the old xbox and vc which is cool that there's stuff to play but i don't feel like it was like you got to buy an xbox one x

That's kind of the whole strategy that i don't think i think we kind of don't want people here yeah they want you to subscribe to game pass which you should because it's a great deal if you give them you know however many dollars a month on xbox or pc or an old xbox they don't they don't really seem to care which is cool they're a cloud company they want the service they want people in the ecosystem but um there's a lot of people you know concerned about which console

To get or what's worth it or what's not and um i don't know microsoft didn't necessarily be like you've got to buy our new box that was not it was definitely not a priority yeah because also i mean there's a rumor that they have another new box um something they would call like the series s like a cheaper um you know like a cheaper alternative the branding is not the best um the naming conventions of these new boxes are a little or a little confusing

Uh what is good though which you did touch on is the game pass i mean i jokingly tweeted that this is the game of the show was game pass but like the incredible part really is that you can play all these on launch day with with the one pass i mean that's kind of there yeah yeah all the first party games are there on day one and there's like a substantial library of rotating third-party games um and they've kind of baked that into they that's uh they stopped offering uh year-long xbox live because they're kind of trying to upsell they're trying

To sort of push people towards like this unified service of xbox live and game pass yeah it is a great deal so i don't really have any qualms um there's a lot of like ea has their own there's a lot of these sort of services i think game passes especially now with the multiple platforms and the simultaneous pc releases probably one of the better deals in gaming uh even if it doesn't mean if it means you don't need an xbox one x very badly um especially if you're already pc gamer

Uh so you can see how that's affecting i think some of their development strategy and that it's it allows them because they they bought a bunch of new teams that had stuff to show like obsidian and double fine and ninja theory and sort of encourages them to make um you know kind of smaller uh like you know marquee like smaller games so just like have like uh there's like there's always like a fresh there's always something new on game pass from these teams i think

They want to do um yeah which is cool because it's kind of you kind of feel like the big budget games are like funding indie devs in a way yeah that's exactly how they're allocating the resources but it feels like well if everyone's buying this game pass for halo or for forza or whatever it is um throw our other games on there people yeah here's your psychonauts too ever wild from uh from rare here's um grounded uh obsidian's a bug's life remake right um avowed obsidian's

Scary game yeah there are other kind of big rpg but i think that's a cool strategy because i think you know as video games get more graphically impressive kind of the other side of that is like the human cost and just the amount of resources it takes to kind of make what we expect a triple a game to be so if we can kind of you know we can sort of if we can make middle class video games again yeah we can get the economics to work out in that for that i'm all for it

Yeah for sure also they're just shorter that's great too yeah not everything has to justify a 60 price point then or 70 as some people are are throwing around for the next gen games um that would be great so i got a fat list of other stuff they showed off here in this other window i could go i could definitely go on about halo but let's uh um halo like that is the biggest thing you just need to see we just need to see more of it i like what i saw i like the aesthetics are

Like og halo combat evolved it looks a lot four and five got away from the game's sort of look and feel with like very busy kind of like super sci-fi um aesthetics and and world design and stuff and i like the gameplay in five a lot i think they seem to be sticking roughly with that root for this with the grappling hook and uh throwing things that you grapple to you and jumping in the turret with even a little more fluid um it looks like they had reticle bloom

Which i really don't like and i hope isn't in like the competitive multiplayer stuff because i i really don't don't like that when your your bullets kind of go in random directions because there's bloom when you shoot um that's just a small thing i noticed um the world looks big and open and cool there's a lot of texture pop in the people noticed i don't know how polished the visuals are i think because of the fact that they're releasing it on the current xbox do you think it's holding it back

Holding them back a little bit and it was an issue yesterday for the longest time they had to limit the sizes of menus and things just because the older console couldn't couldn't keep up um so imagine like load distance and stuff like that is is harder in the old console well they really wanted to have it had to be like an ongoing thing maybe there'd be down the road like a new version that's just like here's like our cut off point if you want to keep going with it here it's like halo infinite

Especially because they have that whole like enhanced correct for real one x yeah um it seems the whole generation seems very fluid it's always a little weird when new consoles launch uh and they sort of straddle the console generations with with some games it's a little weird what gets ported and what's actually a full release and what and we saw with like zelda and all sorts of things in the past for every console maker so it's just it's kind of a weird time

But i feel like with all the technical differences being so upfront uh in these generations it's it's weird kind of what you're getting or what you're not getting but they're the same game but yeah it's different this but still like a very uh kind of still very strong continuity right because we're just gaming pcs now so yeah like them it's easier because they're just computers yeah it's not like you know from the ps3 to the ps4 the ps3 it's weird cell architecture the vs4 which is just

So like i feel like it's a lot easier maybe it's a lot easier because you know the ps5 event too we saw plenty of games are also coming to ps4 yeah yeah and the ps5 was like oh the cool like uh world traversal mechanics that were in ratchet and flank like that's possible because of the ps5 new ssd like you got a sense for kind of like what the hardware is doing for you and the xbox like i guess it looks better but i'm not sure which platform we're watching halo on

Right now and i'm not it doesn't look like tremendous it doesn't look really like a new generation game um so i mean that was kind of because of halo 3 too i remember some of the discourse around that was that wasn't the best looking game at the time yeah yeah so um yeah the vistas look great um the enemies look okay it it it looks it looks good enough i hope they polish it a little bit i hope that's also dependent on if it's pc versus

Versus the console version um i hope the pc version looks better i mean i'm just offering games taking a risk and just sort of upending their entire sort of formula to try something else i like the kind of open world map and gears 5. yeah i assume it'll be something along those lines but again the whole the whole living world 10-year plan thing i'm not sure how you stretch out like a map with map markers unless there's a battle royale mode unless there's um a destiny style living world i'm not

Sure would it be like the halo itself is the storm that's shrinking i don't know what the actual halo refers to yeah it's coming in uh yeah yeah maybe explore the whole halo ring maybe the whole ring is in the game that's the whole map i don't know i doubt it but who knows so i think maybe i think probably the other big microsoft announcement was probably this new fable game um would you yeah would say that's the end cgi we didn't see the game play but that's yeah so from um so the original uh

Games were made by a very famous man of ideas peter molyneux um but that team no longer exists so this one's from playground games who make uh forza horizon i believe um which those games are great so yeah definitely a different style of game uh for them to jump from one to the other i mean the i don't know how you i don't know if you have any feelings strong feelings on fable none none not at all no i have strong feelings about peter molyneux but that's very different

Who doesn't who does it yeah what's inside the cube jordan um i like the first table a lot two and three are okay um it's hard to know at all what to expect with a new developer taking over so tbd2 we see literally anything that's not like a cgi fairy animated introduction but yeah just you know just it's good to see them remember the other franchise that they have because otherwise it's like oh here's a new forza here's state of decay 3. which is people

Of people have long said that like sony has had the better console exclusives so yeah i mean they're both you know i think they're both i think they're both an order of magnitude lower than just in terms of first party i think they're both like an order of magnitude below nintendo i would agree um i i bought my xbox one for halo pretty much exclusively i really did not play anything else that wasn't uh multi-platform on it so um yeah what else did we see though um

Fable was one uh we mentioned a couple kind of jokingly but about a big rpg from obsidian yep uh new version of tetris effect uh psychonauts uh yeah that tetris effect is gonna be a free update actually so is that okay is this thing for if you have it on ps4 or oh okay yeah so yeah that's pretty neat um i was kind of surprised there was no multiplayer in touch respect in the first place they should have 99 people playing touch they need to combine both of these great new tetris ideas

Into one thing um the medium a kind of silent hill looking game a bunch of just kind of like you know cool but kind of like random stuff right like yeah yeah it was a lot of like okay that could be good it's really hard to tell a lot of it was not gameplay for well roughly 80 of these games i don't feel like yeah it's a lot of trailers yeah um um but c2k i like a lot because that's a good franchise um yeah it all looked okay psychonauts there's a lot of jack black singing at you

They should just have the double his uh brutal legend character just be in that that cannon but uh so yeah so now we've kind of seen you know big events from both sony microsoft here uh i'm really kind of i don't care either way you've never been either company's biggest biggest fan no that's very true yeah i i i understand why a lot more people are excited for a lot of sony's franchises if you're someone who likes those games they have a lot of games people really like i don't care too deeply for most of them

I don't think you do either um but you know play your new dark souls games and uh ratchet clank looks pretty cool um miles morales is cool the spider-man games are great of a game i do think microsoft is kind of especially with fable like uh really trying to like make sure people know they have these franchises um and just the third party stuff will come out on both like what it's like my favorite trailer from the sony thing might have been resident evil 8

And that's going to be on both so right yeah um but yeah we'll have to see um you know it's these are both coming out this holiday we got a few months you know for them to kind of put out more news more game reveals see how the world is shaking out by then but it's going to be a big holiday for for gamers here xbox series x so yeah there's a lot there's a lot to look forward to keep reading pcmag.com for more information for sure um matt buzzy thanks so much

For joining us thank you for having me jordan and we'll see you later

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